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« on: September 22, 2010, 15:22:46 »

All the talk on the news has been along the lines of "it only benefits people going to London. That's utter rubbish.

A) It improves commute time to London not only from Birmingham, but from the rest of the country even if the line is never extended further.
B) It improves commute time in the other direction too
C) It is a one off investment, and the line may be working for even a century or more. There's little to gain from delaying it. Also, the construction should provide a huge boost to the UKs construction and manufacturing industries, most of the money spent should come straight back into the economy too
D) Existing railway lines are already far over capacity, and not only is this a problem on it's own, it makes routine maintenance more difficult, expensive and disruptive than it should be, currently repairs are only made when absolutely necessary and maintenance is carried out in a very piecemeal fashion, and even then causes massive disruption. It doesn't help that the tracks were never designed to be used by modern inter-city trains
E) Currently inter-city and local commuter trains are forced to use the same lines. Mixing traffic effectively means reaching a compromise between cutting the number of local trains or the speed of intercity trains. Reducing inter-city traffic on existing lines will greatly improve local train services
F) It will make cheap travel to and from Europe available to many many people
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2010, 15:32:06 »

people are idiots and don't understand that investing in things are good. Especially the tories.

They seem too stuck up on the fact that the countries budget should be balanced like a household one lest the state be too big. Some things require state investment and work, this is one of them.

The state shouldn't be big, bloated and inefficent it should however be proactive in improving things.

Investment in infrastructure, housing and education (by which I mean science mostly) is of vital importance to be kept up now even if the benefits won't be apparent until a decade or two in the future.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 09:53:30 »

"schlunk" goes the tory axe as it chops its way through and public spending.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 04:44:02 »

They seem too stuck up on the fact that the countries budget should be balanced like a household one lest the state be too big. Some things require state investment and work, this is one of them.

But the country's budget SHOULD be treated like a household budget - it is good for a houshold to invest, likewise it is good in the long term for a country to invest. I would liken investing in HS2 to a house getting double glazing - in the short term, it may put the household in debt, but in the long term, the household will make their investment back twice over in savings in their electricity/gas bill.
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